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2019 Murder TrialtranscripttranscriptBenjamin Boyd — Cross/Redirect (Part 2) - Day 16 - 2019 Murder TrialBenjamin Boyd said Timothy Ray Jones Jr.'s statements in the MSU were voluntary and that Lieutenant Pressley did not interrogate him.
Rick HubbardRobert MadsenEugene C. Griffith, Jr.Benjamin BoydRick HubbardBenjamin BoydCourt ReporterTHE COURTRobert Madsencrossredirect
12 pages·6 witnesses·2,552 lines
Lipman testified about AB Pinaca and mental illness; the court admitted correctional-intake statements and heard phone-forensics testimony.
Benjamin Boyd — Cross
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CROSS-EXAMINATION By Mr. Hubbard:

RICK HUBBARD: So Lieutenant Pressley did not interrogate Mr. Jones, didn't say tell me what happened that night when you killed these kids or anything like that?

BENJAMIN BOYD: No, he didn't.

RICK HUBBARD: He didn't say, tell me about the crime you're charged with?

BENJAMIN BOYD: No, he didn't.

RICK HUBBARD: Everything that came out of Mr. Jones' mouth came out of his mouth because he just started talking?

BENJAMIN BOYD: Was pretty much voluntarily, because in MSU most of us -- we never ask anybody what they did or what did they do. We try to treat everybody the same when they're back there because it's kind of like a dangerous area.

RICK HUBBARD: What you heard Mr. Jones say -- do you recall him saying he killed his son?

RICK HUBBARD: And is that?

COURT REPORTER: Is that a yes?

RICK HUBBARD: Is that a yes or no?

RICK HUBBARD: And is that the son that was messing with the outlet?

RICK HUBBARD: How did he say he killed that son?

BENJAMIN BOYD: He just had his hands up. With his bare hands.

RICK HUBBARD: With his bare hands?

RICK HUBBARD: You mentioned something about a daughter, too. Did he talk about killing her?

BENJAMIN BOYD: He said she -- I heard the part where she said -- he said that she came in the room while he was doing it.

RICK HUBBARD: Okay. And did he say anything about -- or did you hear the part about where he went and got her, or did you leave at that time?

BENJAMIN BOYD: I turned around and I was noticing -- there was something else going on behind me --

BENJAMIN BOYD: -- And I turned around and I was checking on something else. Then when I turned back around, you know, they was just sitting there talking.

RICK HUBBARD: All right. Lieutenant Pressley was there that whole time?

BENJAMIN BOYD: Yeah, he was -- he was there.

RICK HUBBARD: So anything about the daughter, he'd be the one to ask about that?

RICK HUBBARD: Thank you.

THE COURT: Anything else?

RedirectRedirectBenjamin Boyd — Redirect Benjamin Boyd Robert Madsen

REDIRECT EXAMINATION By Mr. Madsen:

ROBERT MADSEN: You just said that Tim was talking and Lieutenant Pressley walked up and asked him what happened?

BENJAMIN BOYD: He came in the middle of the conversation as he was talking about the escort. He didn't -- he didn't ask him a question about what he did or how he did. He came and asked us what -- what were we talking about.

ROBERT MADSEN: Okay. Did you tell the Solicitor's Office on April 3rd that Pressley asked what happened?

RICK HUBBARD: That's asked and answered. He's already answered that.

ROBERT MADSEN: I think that's in redirect.

THE COURT: I'll let him clarify, because I think he's--

RICK HUBBARD: All right.

THE COURT: -- I think he has answered, but I want to hear it --

RICK HUBBARD: Yes, sir.

THE COURT: -- hear it again.

ROBERT MADSEN: That's what you told the Solicitor's Office is that Pressley asked what happened?

BENJAMIN BOYD: What happened with the escort. It wasn't about what happened with the murder.

ROBERT MADSEN: That's all the questions I have.

RICK HUBBARD: I have no further questions, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right. You may step down.

BENJAMIN BOYD: Okay. (Whereupon, the witness stepped down from the witness stand).

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