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2019 Murder TrialtranscripttranscriptRonald Rogers — Direct - Day 29 - 2019 Murder TrialRonald Rogers testified that Timothy Ray Jones Jr. was quiet, compliant, and respectful in a self-injury behavior unit.
Robert MadsenCasey SecorBoyd YoungEugene C. Griffith, Jr.Ronald RogersCourt ClerkRonald RogersRobert MadsenBoyd YoungTHE COURTCasey Secordirect
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Defense psychiatrist Donna Maddox testified about her schizophrenia diagnosis, while family witnesses asked the jury not to impose death. The court issued several rulings limiting proposed mitigation evidence and heard social-history proffers outside the jury's presence.
Ronald Rogers — Direct
DirectDirectRonald Rogers — Direct Ronald Rogers Robert Madsen

RONALD ROGERS, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:

COURT CLERK: Once you're seated, state your full name, spelling your last, please.

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RONALD ROGERS: Ronald Rogers, R-O-G-E-R-S.

DIRECT EXAMINATION By Mr. Madsen:

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ROBERT MADSEN: Officer Rogers, where are you employed?

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RONALD ROGERS: Kirkland Correctional.

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ROBERT MADSEN: And how long have you been with SCDC?

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RONALD ROGERS: Approximately, eight years.

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ROBERT MADSEN: And what facility are you employed at?

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RONALD ROGERS: Kirkland.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Kirkland. Have you spent the entire time there at Kirkland?

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ROBERT MADSEN: And back in 2014, did you end up going to kind of a special area of Kirkland?

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RONALD ROGERS: It was self behavior -- self injury behavior unit.

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RONALD ROGERS: No. It was a different program.

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RONALD ROGERS: It was inmates that self mutilated.

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ROBERT MADSEN: That's where you were back then?

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RONALD ROGERS: When he came through, yes. It was a new program.

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ROBERT MADSEN: And you're a trained CIT officer --

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ROBERT MADSEN: -- correct?

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RONALD ROGERS: Crisis intervention training.

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ROBERT MADSEN: And I think we've heard a little bit about that. Did you -- well, your general shift is what?

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RONALD ROGERS: 6:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. I work the overnight shift.

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ROBERT MADSEN: And you're the night shift?

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ROBERT MADSEN: And as a CIT officer, were you one of the officers who had to sit outside of Tim's cell?

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ROBERT MADSEN: So he had --

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RONALD ROGERS: That was a requirement. They wanted -- yes.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Go ahead. I'm sorry.

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RONALD ROGERS: That was a requirement. They wanted a CIT officer to sit in front of the cell.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Was that unusual to have a CIT officer sit outside of an inmate's cell?

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RONALD ROGERS: At the time, we were saying it was -- you know, it was a new program. So they thought it was probably beneficial, since we went through the crisis intervention training, for one of us to sit in front of it.

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ROBERT MADSEN: And was Tim quiet while you were there?

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RONALD ROGERS: He was quiet.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Did he keep to himself?

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RONALD ROGERS: Yes, he did.

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ROBERT MADSEN: I would imagine there's not a lot of rec and that going on from that night shift?

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ROBERT MADSEN: Not a lot of doctor's visits?

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ROBERT MADSEN: Attorney's visits usually?

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ROBERT MADSEN: So he was just basically in the cell?

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RONALD ROGERS: In the cell.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Now, when he came in there, there was quite a bit of publicity about his case, correct?

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RONALD ROGERS: Yes. It was a high profile case, you know, on news, media. So a lot of inmates knew what had happened.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Did the other inmates call out to him or threaten him?

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RONALD ROGERS: They were saying some derogatory stuff.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Did he ever engage back with them?

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RONALD ROGERS: I told him, don't entertain that.

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ROBERT MADSEN: And he did not?

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ROBERT MADSEN: While you were there, did he ever give you any problems?

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RONALD ROGERS: No. He was very polite.

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ROBERT MADSEN: He was respectful to you?

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RONALD ROGERS: Very respectful.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Was he compliant with you?

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RONALD ROGERS: Yes. He was.

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ROBERT MADSEN: Was he courteous?

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ROBERT MADSEN: As an experienced correctional officer, do you have any concerns about when Tim is permanently placed in SCDC?

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RONALD ROGERS: Well, the fact that this crime is dealing with children, that's highly looked down on in prison population.

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ROBERT MADSEN: So nothing with him, just -- not with him being a predator? More --

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ROBERT MADSEN: -- of him being prey?

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ROBERT MADSEN: That's all the questions I have.

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BOYD YOUNG: No questions, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: You may step down. Thank you, sir.

ROBERT MADSEN: Your Honor, may they both be excused?

THE COURT: They certainly may.

CASEY SECOR: Your Honor, may I approach?

THE COURT: You may. (Whereupon, a bench conference was held in the presence of the jury but out of the hearing of the jury.)

THE COURT: All right. Call your witness.

CASEY SECOR: Thank you, sir. The Defense calls Roberta Thornsberry.

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