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2019 Murder TrialtranscripttranscriptRonald Rogers — Direct - Day 29 - 2019 Murder TrialRonald Rogers testified that Timothy Ray Jones Jr. was quiet, compliant, and respectful in a self-injury behavior unit.
Robert MadsenCasey SecorBoyd YoungEugene C. Griffith, Jr.Ronald RogersMr. MadsenCourt ClerkRonald RogersMr. YoungTHE COURTMr. Secordirect
12 pages·6 witnesses·2,152 lines
Defense psychiatrist Donna Maddox testified about her schizophrenia diagnosis, while family witnesses asked the jury not to impose death. The court issued several rulings limiting proposed mitigation evidence and heard social-history proffers outside the jury's presence.
DirectDirectRonald Rogers — Direct Ronald Rogers Robert Madsen

MR. MADSEN: Defense calls Ronald Rogers.

RONALD ROGERS, being first duly sworn, testified as follows:

COURT CLERK: Once you're seated, state your full name, spelling your last, please.

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RONALD ROGERS: Ronald Rogers, R-O-G-E-R-S.

DIRECT EXAMINATION By Mr. Madsen:

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MR. MADSEN: Officer Rogers, where are you employed?

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RONALD ROGERS: Kirkland Correctional.

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MR. MADSEN: And how long have you been with SCDC?

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RONALD ROGERS: Approximately, eight years.

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MR. MADSEN: And what facility are you employed at?

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RONALD ROGERS: Kirkland.

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MR. MADSEN: Kirkland. Have you spent the entire time there at Kirkland?

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MR. MADSEN: And back in 2014, did you end up going to kind of a special area of Kirkland?

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RONALD ROGERS: It was self behavior -- self injury behavior unit.

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MR. MADSEN: The MSU?

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RONALD ROGERS: No. It was a different program.

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RONALD ROGERS: It was inmates that self mutilated.

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MR. MADSEN: That's where you were back then?

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RONALD ROGERS: When he came through, yes. It was a new program.

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MR. MADSEN: And you're a trained CIT officer --

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MR. MADSEN: -- correct?

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RONALD ROGERS: Crisis intervention training.

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MR. MADSEN: And I think we've heard a little bit about that. Did you -- well, your general shift is what?

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RONALD ROGERS: 6:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. I work the overnight shift.

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MR. MADSEN: And you're the night shift?

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MR. MADSEN: And as a CIT officer, were you one of the officers who had to sit outside of Tim's cell?

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MR. MADSEN: So he had --

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RONALD ROGERS: That was a requirement. They wanted -- yes.

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MR. MADSEN: Go ahead. I'm sorry.

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RONALD ROGERS: That was a requirement. They wanted a CIT officer to sit in front of the cell.

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MR. MADSEN: Was that unusual to have a CIT officer sit outside of an inmate's cell?

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RONALD ROGERS: At the time, we were saying it was -- you know, it was a new program. So they thought it was probably beneficial, since we went through the crisis intervention training, for one of us to sit in front of it.

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MR. MADSEN: And was Tim quiet while you were there?

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RONALD ROGERS: He was quiet.

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MR. MADSEN: Did he keep to himself?

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RONALD ROGERS: Yes, he did.

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MR. MADSEN: I would imagine there's not a lot of rec and that going on from that night shift?

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MR. MADSEN: Not a lot of doctor's visits?

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MR. MADSEN: Attorney's visits usually?

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MR. MADSEN: So he was just basically in the cell?

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RONALD ROGERS: In the cell.

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MR. MADSEN: Now, when he came in there, there was quite a bit of publicity about his case, correct?

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RONALD ROGERS: Yes. It was a high profile case, you know, on news, media. So a lot of inmates knew what had happened.

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MR. MADSEN: Did the other inmates call out to him or threaten him?

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RONALD ROGERS: They were saying some derogatory stuff.

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MR. MADSEN: Did he ever engage back with them?

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RONALD ROGERS: I told him, don't entertain that.

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MR. MADSEN: And he did not?

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MR. MADSEN: While you were there, did he ever give you any problems?

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RONALD ROGERS: No. He was very polite.

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MR. MADSEN: He was respectful to you?

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RONALD ROGERS: Very respectful.

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MR. MADSEN: Was he compliant with you?

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RONALD ROGERS: Yes. He was.

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MR. MADSEN: Was he courteous?

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MR. MADSEN: As an experienced correctional officer, do you have any concerns about when Tim is permanently placed in SCDC?

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RONALD ROGERS: Well, the fact that this crime is dealing with children, that's highly looked down on in prison population.

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MR. MADSEN: So nothing with him, just -- not with him being a predator? More --

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MR. MADSEN: -- of him being prey?

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MR. MADSEN: That's all the questions I have.

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MR. YOUNG: No questions, Your Honor.

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THE COURT: You may step down. Thank you, sir.

MR. MADSEN: Your Honor, may they both be excused?

THE COURT: They certainly may.

MR. SECOR: Your Honor, may I approach?

THE COURT: You may.

(Whereupon, a bench conference was held in the presence of the jury but out of the hearing of the jury.)

THE COURT: All right. Call your witness.

MR. SECOR: Thank you, sir. The Defense calls Roberta Thornsberry.

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